How Westside Gunn And Conductor Williams Inspired Tyler, The Creator To Rap Again | The Formula S2E4
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The growing discography made by the Griselda founder and the noir-inspired Kansas City producer reflect the way these two visionaries have aligned to create something singular.
Rodney Carmichael | November 19, 2021
Westside Gunn may be a connoisseur of many things - art, fashion, champagne, even pro wrestling - but picking beats is where the man truly earns his self-anointed nickname, the Flygod. Simply put, his ears are impeccable. And when he stumbled across video of a producer named Conductor Williams demo'ing beats on his IG page a couple of years back, he knew he'd struck gold. What Gunn heard struck him differently than the grimy sound he'd made synonymous with Griselda Records. This was symphonic but soulful. Gunn was sold.
"I spent the rest of the day trying to learn Conductor," Gunn remembers. "We reached out to each other and the rest is history."
Conductor has become integral to the sound Gunn has curated for the Buffalo-based, independently-owned Griselda in the two years since they first worked together. And that sound has become one of the most distinct and influential in hip-hop. Conductor's loop-heavy production, dissonant and often devoid of bass, has a way of elevating Gunn's high-pitched barrage. As one-third of The Heartbreakers - the name Gunn calls his supergroup of in-house producers, which also includes Camoflauge Monk and Denny LaFlare - Kansas City native Williams works his magic like a jazz-era sideman, his select tracks providing the perfect accompaniment on albums ranging from Gunn's "Pray For Paris" and Mach-Hommy's "Pray For Haiti" (executive produced by Gunn), to Gunn's recently released double-LP "Hitler Wears Hermes 8."
As two of the newest collaborators featured in this season of The Formula, where we dig deep into joint discographies between rappers and producers, Westside Gunn and Conductor Williams have already made a major impact. "Michael Irvin," only the second song they made together, served as the sonic inspiration for one of the biggest albums of 2021 when Tyler, the Creator rapped over the same beat on "SIR BAUDELAIRE," the opening song from his "Call Me When You Get Lost" LP. In this episode, we get them together in NYC to talk about how they inspire each other and what it feels like to know their music is moving the culture right now.
CREDITS
Host/Series Producer: Rodney Carmichael; Producers: Tsering Bista, Nickolai Hammar; Editor: Nickolai Hammar; Animators: Jackie Lay, Alicia Zheng; Director of Photography: Nickolai Hammar; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Annabel Edwards, Nickolai Hammar, Christopher Parks; Production Assistants: Amna Ijaz, Trisha Pickelhaupt; Art Director: CJ Riculan; Project Coordinator: Erin Register; Legal Adviser: Kimberly Sullivan; Consulting Editors: Jacob Ganz, Sidney Madden; Supervising Producer, Nick Michael; Senior Producer: Abby O'Neill; Managing Editor: Becky Lettenberger; Executive Producers: Anya Grundmann, Keith Jenkins
MUSIC
"Michael Irvin," Westside Gunn, Flygod Is An Awesome God 2 (2020); "Sir Baudelaire (feat. DJ Drama)," Tyler, The Creator, Call Me If You Get Lost (2021); "Rose Water" by DJ Face
#westsidegunn #conductorwilliams #theformula #nprmusic
Пікірлер: 479
We need a Westside Gunn tiny desk concert
@arigato6864
2 жыл бұрын
BRO that would be wildddddddddddddddddddddd
@327outkast
2 жыл бұрын
Yoooo fr
@jayrivss9859
2 жыл бұрын
Whole griselda needa too
@MiloLamar
2 жыл бұрын
@@jayrivss9859 Benny & Conway have one, but a group one would be great
@godmaster2209
2 жыл бұрын
brooooo that would be lit. Imagine the live adlibs boom boom boom boom!!!!
CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM !!!!!!!! One of my favorite beat makers🙏🏼
@SHEABUDDHA
2 жыл бұрын
This man is immortal with the beats 🔥🔥🔥
@FromTheSouthmark
2 жыл бұрын
@@SHEABUDDHA no cap brother
@jerryezel4530
2 жыл бұрын
One of the best Tags also
@choppaboy1655
2 жыл бұрын
Facts!
@viktorvaughn1345
2 жыл бұрын
@hoochiecoochie CONDUCTER WE HAVE A PROBLEM!!!
That Westside Gunn/MF DOOM chain goes hard
@manuelbarranco2932
2 жыл бұрын
Was thinking that right as a I saw it
@QFilms-tj9fh
2 жыл бұрын
Factz!
@munneyadvancefastmunneytod6200
2 жыл бұрын
" Look at the Vssssss in the WestsideDOOOOM "
@delusional-ibra
8 ай бұрын
@@munneyadvancefastmunneytod6200R.I.P DOOM 🗣️
Westside Gunn with a live orchestra would be an amazing performance, with Conducter as the conductor!
@romanogold82
2 жыл бұрын
"Elizabeth" would be a great song for a live orchestra performance.
@REAL6
2 жыл бұрын
With a sprinkle of some Roc Marci verses.
@elijahhill6602
Жыл бұрын
@@romanogold82 That, Banana Yacht, and Jimmy Hart
@Polo22546
8 ай бұрын
@@REAL6AYO!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@blakelorimor7410
8 ай бұрын
His new track kitchen lights
conductor's production on HWH8 is undefeated, classics
@ad34bballin
Жыл бұрын
Facts. Mariota's one of my favorite songs period.
Westside Gunn finally smiles and has no longer his psycho gaze. He seems to be chilling now. Good for the bro.
@roenalaurice
2 жыл бұрын
😂
@JWandoe
2 жыл бұрын
No grill. A rarity
Gunn has a genius artistic vision. 100% advancing the culture at warp speed.
@maad1670
Жыл бұрын
No lies 🎯🎯
We gotta give West his flowers man. Been a fan since Supreme Blientele. Forever my fav MC!🔥🔥
I love this duo. Gunn is nearly Kanye level for me and Conductor unique style is going to keep pushing him forward. Salute.
@guvnordoom1418
2 жыл бұрын
SYPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODA
@Sypooda
2 жыл бұрын
@@guvnordoom1418 What’s good brother! 🙌🏿
@notsok22
2 жыл бұрын
I freestyle over your beats all day u got mad talent 💯
@arigato6864
2 жыл бұрын
you be on this one day
@nkosinathingele1158
2 жыл бұрын
I agree
🗣 CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM!
@jdsmooth.2388
2 жыл бұрын
CONSUCTER💯💯💯
Conductor Williams feels like the closest thing to Madlib of the new generation.. very excited to see how he evolves
@rafaeldelacruz6362
2 жыл бұрын
Big facts!
@andrewm7317
2 жыл бұрын
Chill lol
@thegoat3153
2 жыл бұрын
Man ong i thought he was madlib because of the style and that "Conductor! We have a problem tag!"
@yourname427
2 жыл бұрын
You spelled dilla wrong
@kahuna253
2 жыл бұрын
Nah bro Madlib is incomparable
"Ever cook half a brick in an air frier?"
@yungdurtball3896
4 күн бұрын
He was in a rush 😂😂😂
I’d love to see Daringer on this, his beats are godly
@yani2499
2 жыл бұрын
and JLVSN
@wkwk1152
2 жыл бұрын
body bag type beats all day
@shadmaadeit9524
2 жыл бұрын
Idk why daringer wasn't in this first.
@ianjudge5572
2 жыл бұрын
Feel like Conway / Daringer is a good pairing, feel like my favorite Daringer beats are with him
@nonealike
2 жыл бұрын
Nah put some respect on Conductor’s name. He laces Mach with some fire as well.
None of us are gonna be able to hear that beat without T voice in our heads saying 'ayo'.
@Mick-hp3jm
2 жыл бұрын
Right lol
@MarquesoDaGoat
2 жыл бұрын
i say gangsta grillz every time i hear it💀💀💀
@jammastereric
2 жыл бұрын
I still hear Conductor more than anything
@aintnobodyflyer
2 жыл бұрын
i hear gunns ayo
@fatherfisto
Жыл бұрын
i cant listen to T without hearing gunn’s ayo
I was introduced to Westside Gunn by Tyler because when I heard pray for Paris I loved the vibe
@LarryFisherman5
2 жыл бұрын
you done been sleeping good afternoon
Conductor on Pray For Haiti was amazing. First beat I think of when I hear his name is Folie Á Deux
@marcoferrucci1358
Жыл бұрын
🙏one of the best beats oat n I will die on that hill
Conductor is a living legend. please give more credit to this guy. you'll sleep so bad.
i love how we never hear a question asked, but this still feels like a fluid conversation
I definitely think "RIGHT NOW" and "Frank Murphy" are my favorite conductor beats Frank Murphy was the first time I ever paid attention to conductor. Cuz I HAD NEVER HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THAT BEAT before With the exception of the unorthodox beats rza used to make way back in the day ..and madlib and a handful of cats like that But yea.. FRANK MURPHY is literally a movie .. crazy eerie distorted sample...no drums...the tempo and crackles randomly go in and out ... . looped and chopped with the needle skip on the record . Literally sounds the score to a horror movie scene. I love that ish Tbh tho...I really wish they gave Daringer this look instead of conductor ... hes good.... but DARINGER is an integral part of why these guys ARE WHO THEY ARE TO THIS DAY.
@LAJP97
2 жыл бұрын
Denny La Flare did the beat for right now, one of my favourites too !
@reggiethefather22
2 жыл бұрын
Facts 💯 frank murphy got me paying attention to conductor that beat is crazy never heard anything like it
@WelcomeToThe92503
2 жыл бұрын
@@LAJP97 word? I thought it was conductor?
@LAJP97
2 жыл бұрын
@@WelcomeToThe92503 yeaa man checked on genius
@WelcomeToThe92503
2 жыл бұрын
@@LAJP97 na...I did too. Lol...I had thought I sent another comment ... where I said I didnt know why I thought he did it I think its cus I've always thought I heard the conducta tag on it lolll..🤷🏻♂️ .. but ya.. its dope tho
Conductor may be a relatively new producer but he’s without a doubt one of my favorite producers out rn!
@sillygoofyberry
8 ай бұрын
hes in no way new, just new to this scence. hes been making music for the longest
I hope they keep this segment goin; Need to shine a bigger light on producers 🙏🏾
Michael Irvin introduced me to Conducter and I'm excited to see his credits on any project ever since. 🔥
Conductor has quickly become one of my favourite producers. He just gets better & better every beat. So unique and out the box
I'm tryna see Mach and Tha God Fahim on this jawn
@solegiraffe4342
2 жыл бұрын
underrated comment
@mystroharrison1173
2 жыл бұрын
Hammony!!!!!!
@Mick-hp3jm
2 жыл бұрын
Everything mach does is classic
Conductor, Conductor, Conductor.
Need an Apollo Brown one - collab master.
Westsidegunn lyrical content is unreal. People cant sleep on his rhyme skeeem. Man. I was a instant fan. Back in 2015 i heard that apollo brown joint and was hooked
Atmosphere has a song w that sample its called lifter puller. Its a dope beat both versions.
@axioms22
2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU, Ant did a much better job sampling this like a decade ago and now these clowns think they're being unique LOL
@alejandroportillo1434
2 жыл бұрын
@@axioms22 Ha ha yeah Ant makes some fire beats classics.
@DudeNo13
2 жыл бұрын
Ant deserves his flowers
@DudeNo13
2 жыл бұрын
"You don't know me, you just love me"
@Curling_Rack
2 жыл бұрын
salute!
Dope interview and it’s great to see my city of Kansas City get that shine salute Conductor Williams and WestSide 🔥🔥🔥🔥🙌🏽🙌🏽
I love Conductor's sound it's crisp & theatrical 🔥
Glad to see npr getting this interview
nothing but endless inspiration ✨️ i needed this in my life thank you FLYGOD and Mr CONDUCTOR
Yall are one of the best puzzle pieces in this culture. Conductor....you crazy man!!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Big ups for Kansas City MO and Conductor Williams!
@roycekrispie
2 жыл бұрын
Kc in tha house. I’m repping for the city. C hec k m y c h annel ou T
NPR did the FLYGOD & Conductor serious justice on this one!
Their stylistically different but on beat head nods were all too perfect
Conductor. He’s special man. His beats are something else.
this is the episode i’ve been waiting for all season.
Being that The Conductor is the Deniro to Gunns' Pesci in Goodfellas, lets all hope there's never a scene where Conductor is in a phone booth slammin a phone to pieces 🤣🤣🤣
“We are the Culture we dont even have to talk about it we the ones who they talk about”- FlyGod
That Michael Irvin Is Fire 🔥 👍🔥
This proves why Westside gunn is a great producer, his vision.
Westside is the very man - a hidden talent. Styles are unique. Keep them coming.
I looove the WSG n Conductor combo ..fire 🔥🔥
Wow grateful 😊 for this interview
this might be my favourite duo so far from this series
A great duo. Agreed with the other people, they are underrated. Love them.
Thnx for sharing, RIP Villain
I wish you guys showed more songs by the two of them. This is a great exposé for fans that already know them but new fans really don’t have much to go off of besides the one song you play haha
@Belligerence.
5 ай бұрын
They have plenty of songs together at this point.
Kansas City!! Conductor you on point with the cast iron skillet!!
*takes a shot everytime Gunn says "You know what im saying"* *on dialysis for eternity*
i have to respect west side gunn's perspective of growing from his entire life experience without any cover ups... and then turning it into orchestra and art and expressive music. i cant even doubt how much i enjoy the music, and i cant doubt how many people here in Buffalo i know that feel the same way.
Avante-Gangster - definitely using this description and acting like I came up with it
@NO-gh4qp
2 жыл бұрын
I personally called it esoteric gangsta but I like this a lot better
This sample is also used on Lifter Puller by Atmosphere.
The narration is top notch
This guys are such an inspiration
There’s something about Conductor William’s slight pitch shifting that separates him from other producers. It’s always there. A sense of discord. Slight dissonance. Beauty.
When I first heard conductor I thought it was Madlib. He got a dope sound
The Flygod and Conductor, needed this
Your old droog and edan beats are beautiful too
I first heard the Micheal irving beat by atmosphere and it was called lift puller. But west & conductor killed it
Daringer needs to be on this with Conway or Benny
Love these dudes and I'm SO glad they linked up.
Luxury Art Rap🔥🔥🔥
@SammyTTS8
2 жыл бұрын
Everytime I come across a fellow South African on one these real hip hop comment sections, I feel less weird. Yizo gaz'lam 👊🏿👊🏿
I like that transition of speakers after writers block 🥶📈
i love these dudes art!!
Such great unique styles
I finally placed this beat haha Tyler jacked it
i needed this
big Grielda gang!!! Tiny desk show soon??
Real talk the perfect teams, Conductor/ West..Benny/DJ Shay...Conway/Daringer
I have always said gun has the best beat selection. His ear for beats is amazing.
Great show
Pray For Paris is one of the best musical pieces I have ever heard in my life 😃
THAT DOOM CHAIN IS INSANE
Cant wait for his to come to Dallas Nov 28th 🤲🏿🤲🏿
This series is beautiful.
That DOOM chain is goated
Dope video
Conductor is a humble dude. He’s going to go a very long way
Cold duo, salute majita
This series is top 🔥
that old orchatrea is fire 7:15
Conductor conductor conductor 🖤
Big up Gunn an Conducta Williams 🙏🏼
Great series
Slug made a great track to this same sample Atmosphere wayyyy back . Sevens Travels times. West side Gunn Always on point with great Raw Hip hop an his voice on the track is super unique an dope
@Day-ZDuke
2 жыл бұрын
For sure my man....just one note, ANT made the beat for Atmosphere, he was the producer, Slug was the MC
gonna have to watch this twice, once to understand and once to just peep game on these fits
It’s crazy because every time i hear mike Irving beat i always think that it’s a film noir sound I’m glad that producer felt the same way wow
I always felt the producers is not shown off enough it's always the artist I always felt it should be just as much credit split cause they came together to make the magic of great music 🎶 just my 2¢
CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM!
I did not know what conductor Williams looked like until now. Feel like a lot of people bout to start hitting him for beats tho, because he really up there with imma go ahead and say Alc cause Conductor that nice to me
Dat Doom pendant go hardddd af !!!
Conductors beats are amazing
conductor one of the best producers of the last 2 years
The saviors of hip hop right here
That Rey Jr. Piece is ILL
Now Conducter has a song with Drake 😭🔥
we need a Tiny Desk Session for WSG
Y’all should do one with Nas and hitboy